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Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 9:48 am
by Vrangor
Hi! Any progress with blank window?

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:44 pm
by sysrqer
Bumping this, I also get the blank window issue in ardour4.

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:12 pm
by superprick
bump ditty bumb bump

any progress

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:04 am
by superprick
If it helps any qtractor has no problem loading the gui and using the plugins. I remember reading somewhere that qtractor handles vst a little differently. Not sure if thats correct.

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:00 am
by sysrqer
I don't know. From what I can tell all hosts handle them differently:

Bitwig you just need to close and reopen the gui
Ardour will not load any gui at all
qtractor seems to open guis with no problem
renoise opens most guis without any problem but it has other issues with a few plugins
All the while reaper (without airwave) can open all plugins I have tried, all guis open and doesn't have the few issue renoise has.

I managed to stir the ardour devs enough to look at the problem because it seems quite possible the host doesn't handle something well but then they saw this and assumed it was not their problem:
Known issues

Due to a bug in WINE, there is some hacking involved when embedding the editor window. There is a chance that you get a black window instead of the plugin GUI. Also some areas might not update correctly when increasing the window size. On some hosts (Bitwig Studio for example) this can be solved by closing and re-opening the plugin window.
I don't know which bug this referring to but as far as I can tell there have been 7 wine releases since it airwave was last updated, I wonder if this bug as been addressed in one of these releases?

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:49 am
by Luc
Hi. I have a problem with Airwave.

I keep all my important stuff in a separate partition, not $HOME. In fact, almost everything in my $HOME directory is a symlink to the actual content in that partition.

So I have a directory there with all my Windows VSTs and I tried to create Airwave links to them, but I can't. The ${WINEPREFIX}/ part is compulsory.

So I thought no problem, this is Linux, so I symlinked the VST directory into ~/.wine/drive_c/ but Airwave won't let me go into that directory when creating a link.

That doesn't seem reasonable to me. :(

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:20 pm
by phant0m
Luc, vst plugins are not just a bunch of dll files. There are many single-dll freebies, but serious commercial plugins usually use additional resources, which can be installed anywhere inside of the wine prefix. That's why airwave forces user to create links relative to the wine prefix. If you need to keep your plugins on a separate partition, just create a wine prefix there.

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:25 pm
by Luc
I have several programs running outside of the wine prefix. I don't believe that has to be FORCED.

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:29 pm
by phant0m
sysrqer wrote:I don't know which bug this referring to but as far as I can tell there have been 7 wine releases since it airwave was last updated, I wonder if this bug as been addressed in one of these releases?
Well, to be honest, I'm not 100% sure that this is a wine bug so I didn't create a bug report. I don't know an easy way to reproduce this issue without using of vst-host, vst-plugin and the airwave. Possibly I could write a simple program, demonstrating the issue. I will think about it.

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:00 pm
by phant0m
I have some news about the blank window issue. The good one: I was able to create a simple workaround which can partly solve the issue. The bad one: my workaround has a form of patch file for WINE. I can create dedicated wine package in ArchLinux User Repository (AUR), but I can't build WINE for all popular Linux distributions. Moreover, many people use patched WINE already (RT, PA and other variants).
I've created a bug report in WINE Bugzilla. I hope that people there will help to fix this bug.

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:51 pm
by sysrqer
That's great news phant0m, hopefully your patch will be merged or the root of the bug fixed upstream. I'll try your patch here though, thank you for looking at the issue.

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:53 pm
by phant0m
falkTX, you're welcome and thanks for the help with wine-rt. Though I doubt that my patch will be merged in its current state as it's just a rough workaround. I'll keep an eye on it.

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:46 am
by akiz
Blank windows after the last KXstudio update in Renoise...

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:08 pm
by phant0m
It seems that I was able to fix a resizing issue. At least I can increase the size of plugin windows (tested only with FabFilter plugins) without any blank areas on my machine. I've updated my patch in the Bugzilla.

Re: Airwave VST bridge

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:17 pm
by phant0m
akiz wrote:Blank windows after the last KXstudio update in Renoise...
Interesting.. although I don't know what exactly you've updated and whether this update contains the fix. It's better to wait for some comment from falkTX.