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https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforu ... f0d3041836

I hope every synth and effects lover can get some U-he plugins,
even the free ones and magazine-ware versions are excellent.

https://u-he.com/

And a new product approaches public beta,
"Twangstrom' ...a spring reverb plugin, hmmn,
maybe U-he are moving headquarters to Texas?
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Thanks for sharing this here, I never would have known otherwise. I'm not much of a synth person but I need to check those out. Presswerk has become my all time fave plugin, and Twangstrom would really fill a void in the Linux plug-in world.
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I think presswerk is excellent, well worth checking out!
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glowrak guy wrote:https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforu ... f0d3041836

I hope every synth and effects lover can get some U-he plugins,
even the free ones and magazine-ware versions are excellent.

https://u-he.com/

And a new product approaches public beta,
"Twangstrom' ...a spring reverb plugin, hmmn,
maybe U-he are moving headquarters to Texas?
Ribs, cornbread, chili, low taxes, and kick that Fender Twin :D
Cheers,
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bluebell wrote: What do they do against piracy? Dongle? Phone home? Or a simple license key that will work even if you replace your PC?
It's a text file. Two lines. First is your name. Second is license number. Sits in the ../Support/ directory of each plugin.
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Think about buying Hive or Zebra, but first I'll test the Demo versions. Does Hive can do anything Zebra can't?
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It's not a question of capabilities about doing something really. It's more a question of sound. Hive has its own character, most often upfront although there are some atmospheric sounds also. Hive has a more raw in the digital sense output. Zebra2 is way more flexible due to its architecture although not as good to output the sounds with a Hive character. Zebra2 is preferred by many for the vast soundscapes that can be produced. Witness all the soundsets by Matt Bowler and Stefan Baer.

None of the u-he synths can be directly compared I find. Each has its own character, their own filters. None can have the warmth of Repro-5 for instance. Even Diva is a bit more aggressive on the analog side.

So between Hive and Zebra2 you basically have the choice between a more dedicated synth, Hive, and one that can do a lot more. Both are rather easy on CPU. Note that the upcoming (sometime next year) Hive will feature wave tables, as you can see if you download the beta in development. This should be great for Hive.
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I thought HIVE is a typical synth for dance music and I didn't have any interest at all in it. But after seing this I thought it's interesting and useful also for atmospheric stuff:

https://youtu.be/P6E8lsLUALU

I'm watching some tutorials at the moment and play with the demo versions the next days. The U-He stuff is great and very stable on Linux.
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lilith wrote: ... But after seing this I thought it's interesting and useful also for atmospheric stuff: ...
I'm not found of Hacke's sound set. Matter of taste. Look at the "Night Lights" soundset by Bryan Lake (Sound Author) :

Here's one sound:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnujlctaBpE

And one track by Irion Da Ronin from that soundset:

https://soundcloud.com/bryan-lake/night ... n-da-ronin

Bryan's sound sets are quite good. He also has one for Bazille and Zebra2.

For Hive look also at Stefan Bär's "Aeon":

Example track by Stefan:

https://soundcloud.com/sonicunderworld/ ... /hive-aeon

1 hour walkthrough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qm_LSJoA1s
lilith wrote: I'm watching some tutorials at the moment and play with the demo versions the next days. The U-He stuff is great and very stable on Linux.
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Thanks. I think Zebra wil keep me busy for the next years and it's much more versatile than HIVE. I try installing the new version tomorrow as I have a really old one.
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Forgot to add that yes, u-he Linux synths are running pretty good. At least the ones posted on their web site which are kind of old compared to latest developments. But then, I do not want to install a new version every now and then so I'll wait until new Linux versions are deemed to be worthy to be posted on the web site.

Zebra2 certainly has more capabilities. If you want to go full Zebra, you could also get the Dark Zebra (also called Zebra HZ) in addition to the regular. I only use Zebra HZ (Hans Zimmer, film composer) to load any Zebra2 patch since when I modify any I can use the extra Dark Zebra features to add to them, namely the Diva filters.
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I played with ZEBRA 2 today: Really great and easy to use. Have to think about it if and when to buy it. Maybe I first should "master" Zynfusion, Helm, Oxe FM, etc. I fear a bit to get lost with having too many sound options at hand.
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But then, does one need to really master a synth ? Unless your goal is to produce sound sets. For making music there's no need to 'master' an instrument. And then, there's also the question about what to master. Would you give priority to Open Source synths just because they're Open Source, and spend much time in 'mastering' them when a fully supported commercial synth that comes with full documentation and dozens of videos and sound sets can yield much more return to an investment in time ? Not to mention general quality of sounds based on the fact that people are full-time working on these under the pressure of commercial success ? If so then it's an ideological choice.
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A bump for https://u-he.com/PatchLib/zebra.html

Thousands of Zebra2 sounds at the link, many from ardent devotees, pro demos,
contest entrees, and various older factory releases. Also there are
many alternative waveform collections.

The newer synths and free synths are also well represented.

The character of synths can be nicely extended by the effects one uses.
I find that U-he, Bitwig, Calf, Rakarrack, GX, and Zyn, among so many, each offer
variety and a unique overall petina, for lack of more precise labeling.
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jonetsu wrote:But then, does one need to really master a synth ? Unless your goal is to produce sound sets. For making music there's no need to 'master' an instrument. And then, there's also the question about what to master. Would you give priority to Open Source synths just because they're Open Source, and spend much time in 'mastering' them when a fully supported commercial synth that comes with full documentation and dozens of videos and sound sets can yield much more return to an investment in time ? Not to mention general quality of sounds based on the fact that people are full-time working on these under the pressure of commercial success ? If so then it's an ideological choice.
You are always hitting the nail on the hat :P

I thought I can use Zebra before buying it by rendering, but in that case it's not possible as it constantly plays wrong notes.
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