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Bitwig+ Tal plugins

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Hi,

On my desktop i did some upgrades and after starting bitwig and playing around with some tal plugins and others
i noticed that the state of the tal-plugins aren't being saved. Noizemaker, dub, the reverb plugins etc.*

They are all affected. I the project has been reloaded, they don't even go to there init. All the sliders are down, pots are rotated down right.

Has someone has problems with these too?

Bitwig 1.3.9 and TAL-plugins 20160323-kxstudio2
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Re: Bitwig+ Tal plugins

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Very strange, i upgrade bitwig on my laptop to, it has the same TAL-version

But every works like expected.

I don't have a clu now what could be wrong.
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Re: Bitwig+ Tal plugins

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Ok, it's even worser now.

Lots of plugins i don't see anymore. not only TAL any more but also lots of others.
Could it be that the conversion to gcc5 cause this?
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Re: Bitwig+ Tal plugins

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gcc5 changed its C++ ABI, so that's likely the source of the (missing plugins) problem.
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Re: Bitwig+ Tal plugins

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How can i know if they are compatible?

If i read GCC version out of a file it should match?

example:

$ strings -a /opt/bitwig-studio/bitwig-studio | grep GCC
GCC_3.3.1
GCC_3.0
GCC_3.3
GCC_4.2.0
GCC: (GNU) 5.2.0
GCC: (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) 4.6.3


$ strings -a /usr/lib/vst/Nekobi-vst.so | grep GCC
GCC_3.0

On my laptop everything works fine, but i don't dare to upgrade now so that it don't get broken :-).
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Re: Bitwig+ Tal plugins

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You need to grep for the string CXXABI

Further reading is here:

https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc+ ... l/abi.html
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Re: Bitwig+ Tal plugins

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ok, nice to know but just found out that keyboard and mouse aren't working anymore in X after update yesterday in debian

I'm not happy :).

It will be for the weekend, don't feel like solving problems now that i can't fix
on the first sight.
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Re: Bitwig+ Tal plugins

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'everything' is working again. The tal plugins are found but there still a big problem,

Nothing of the patches are saved even in 1.3.8, wich worked before very good.
After saving project, reopening doesn restored the state.
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Re: Bitwig+ Tal plugins

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solved.

Tonespace caused the problems. After deleting tonespace, the tal plugins gave no problems anymore.
Very strange.
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