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Re: KX mini manual

Postby wolftune » Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:59 pm

zth wrote:In the spirit of constructive criticism...

wolftune, it baffles me that you can write an entire paragraph about constuctive criticism, and about writing where you disagree technically instead of calling things "ramblings", only to in the next paragraph state that you edited out ramblings (that you make very clear wasn't written by you, but someone else) without even mentioning what that was, how you disagreed, or how you edited it. I'm sure that's available in some wiki-logs, but for the people just reading this thread (like me) this can indeed seem counterproductive (editing without discussion and calling it ramblings), and quite frankly, rude.

As you say yourself, keeping a friendly atmosphere is vital. I'm sure you mean no offence, but danboid's maybe not the only one who needs to pause for a moment before posting things :)


Thanks, zth, indeed. I've no claim to being perfect. For the record, my opaque reference to "ramblings" referred in this case were about non-substantial minor things. In other words, the "ramblings" I changed were simply that I took some sentences and figured out how to say the same things in fewer words more clearly.

I don't think calling something "ramblings" is rude necessarily. Saying "this is too wordy, it's just rambling" is perfectly constructive feedback, for example. Often, a writer has a good topic to mention but does it in a rambling way. When an editor helps improve that, everyone wins. Both Dan and I have sometimes written things that are too rambly. The problem is when substantial ideas are dismissed by calling the whole thing "rambling". It's also a problem when criticism is hyperbolic.

So I guess I'm saying that I agree with Dan that rambling is a problem. I guess what I wanted to say all along is that (A) I don't agree with his exaggerated claim that I wrote ramblings in this case, and (B) I wish he'd separated out any claims of rambliness from disagreements about scope or accuracy. And mostly I want all of us (yes, I'm projecting, this is something for me to work on also!) to express appreciation for everyone's input and feedback and try not to be annoyed at anyone for making contributions even if we don't always agree with them or find them helpful.
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Re: KX mini manual

Postby zth » Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:55 pm

wolftune wrote:
zth wrote:In the spirit of constructive criticism...

wolftune, it baffles me that you can write an entire paragraph about constuctive criticism, and about writing where you disagree technically instead of calling things "ramblings", only to in the next paragraph state that you edited out ramblings (that you make very clear wasn't written by you, but someone else) without even mentioning what that was, how you disagreed, or how you edited it. I'm sure that's available in some wiki-logs, but for the people just reading this thread (like me) this can indeed seem counterproductive (editing without discussion and calling it ramblings), and quite frankly, rude.

As you say yourself, keeping a friendly atmosphere is vital. I'm sure you mean no offence, but danboid's maybe not the only one who needs to pause for a moment before posting things :)


Thanks, zth, indeed. I've no claim to being perfect. For the record, my opaque reference to "ramblings" referred in this case were about non-substantial minor things. In other words, the "ramblings" I changed were simply that I took some sentences and figured out how to say the same things in fewer words more clearly.

I don't think calling something "ramblings" is rude necessarily. Saying "this is too wordy, it's just rambling" is perfectly constructive feedback, for example. Often, a writer has a good topic to mention but does it in a rambling way. When an editor helps improve that, everyone wins. Both Dan and I have sometimes written things that are too rambly. The problem is when substantial ideas are dismissed by calling the whole thing "rambling". It's also a problem when criticism is hyperbolic.

So I guess I'm saying that I agree with Dan that rambling is a problem. I guess what I wanted to say all along is that (A) I don't agree with his exaggerated claim that I wrote ramblings in this case, and (B) I wish he'd separated out any claims of rambliness from disagreements about scope or accuracy. And mostly I want all of us (yes, I'm projecting, this is something for me to work on also!) to express appreciation for everyone's input and feedback and try not to be annoyed at anyone for making contributions even if we don't always agree with them or find them helpful.


Hear hear, I agree with you completely, I was just reacting to how you phrased it, which I personally found a bit harsh for being part of a post telling people to not be harsh ;)

Anyway, you two are both doing a great job, and while it's obvious you both occasionally disagree (more or less violently ;) ), it's refreshing for me as an outsider to see how this effort is still carried forward collaboratively. Good work both of you, I hope more work like this gets carried out in the future :).

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Re: KX mini manual

Postby danboid » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:31 pm

I have added Tracktion to the list of recommended apps and I'll likely add Obxd when F packages it too.

I've also added a link to the Italian translation of the manual on the main / index page.
Are you new to Linux Audio? This manual explains how to install KXStudio, set up and use JACK, mimimize latency, lists the best Linux AV apps and much more all in a concise and easy to understand format.

http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/kxstudio_manual

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Re: KX mini manual

Postby danboid » Thu May 29, 2014 7:01 pm

I've just added Bitwig to

http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/include ... ended_apps

I'm going to be installing KX 14.04 and updating the manual (if needed) as soon as I've finished my first Tracktion track then hopefully F will make this thread sticky again as it seems my work on the manual (which I wish more people would recommend) is being overlooked already. :(
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Re: KX mini manual

Postby danboid » Thu May 29, 2014 7:32 pm

Thanks for the re-sticky F! :)
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Re: KX mini manual

Postby falkTX » Thu May 29, 2014 7:33 pm

danboid wrote:I've just added Bitwig to

http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/include ... ended_apps

Thanks.
Remember that non-free apps are no longer in the new ISOs or in the repos. Just keep that in mind.

danboid wrote:I'm going to be installing KX 14.04 and updating the manual (if needed) as soon as I've finished my first Tracktion track then hopefully F will make this thread sticky again as it seems my work on the manual (which I wish more people would recommend) is being overlooked already. :(

ah, yeah, sorry. it's sticky again.
I had 2 more sticky topics before so I had to let something go. now those are gone, your manual thread comes back up :D

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Re: KX mini manual

Postby danboid » Thu May 29, 2014 7:42 pm

falkTX wrote:Remember that non-free apps are no longer in the new ISOs or in the repos. Just keep that in mind.


Yep, I'm aware of that but it doesn't affect that page as its just a general 'Best Linux Audio apps' list and doesn't specify whats included and whats not.

One chapter that will need some adjustment is

http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/wineasio_and_reaper

As you don't include REAPER anymore and I don't think wine and wineasio are included on your 14.04 ISO either are they?
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Re: KX mini manual

Postby wolftune » Thu May 29, 2014 7:47 pm

Wine isn't in the ISO but it's still in the repos.
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Re: KX mini manual

Postby danboid » Thu May 29, 2014 7:48 pm

Yep, ah knew that but thanks anyhoo wolfman!
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Re: KX mini manual

Postby daeavelwyn » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:19 am

And so, how am I supposed to install correctly wine and reaper ? Which wine version (wine-rt ? wine 1.6?) should I install reaper in my /home or in the /opt as it was done before ? If someone could give me some help about the steps I should follow :)

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Re: KX mini manual

Postby danboid » Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:28 am

I can't say I've tried the latest KX wine packages out yet - F?

I needed to update the wine / REAPER chapter on this very issue and planned to do so soon but in the mean time, have you tried Tracktion 5? I prefer its interface to REAPERs, Tracktion is Linux-native and free (as in beer).

Tracktion is still in beta but is already more stable and feature complete than Ardour 3 and from what I hear maybe Bitwig too. As for running Windows/wine plugins under Tracktion, I'm looking into that later. T5 supports Linux native VST and LADSPA plugins currently.
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Re: KX mini manual

Postby falkTX » Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:25 am

installing reaper will work just like any other wine app.
either install the system wine package or kxstudio's wine-rt one (but never both at the same time!), then use wine as you regularly would.

installing wineasio will pull wine-rt by default if no other wine version is currently installed.

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Re: KX mini manual

Postby danboid » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:54 pm

In another thread, falkTX corrected my erroneous presumption that Carla 2 can currently work as a VST plug-in although it is a planned feature so if you really wanted to use Windows VSTs under Linux Tracktion right now you'd prob need to use Jackass, Carla (or another external VST host) and a session manager. I don't like to rely on wine and windows VSTs anyway and such a config involves too much for me to seriously consider using it.
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Re: KX mini manual

Postby danboid » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:00 pm

daeavelwyn:

I though you might be interested to know that there is now limited support for Windows VSTs under Linux Tracktion:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 6acc96b499

Compat. leaves a lot to be desired but should improve as Tracktions general VST support improves.

Have you got round to trying T5 yet or are you set on using REAPER under wine?

F / Mr Wolf /everyone interested in KX:

As for updating the wine/REAPER section of the manual, I'm not sure what its fate should be for a few reasons. The manual was targetted primarily at the DVD distro of KX, which no longer includes wine nor REAPER. Also, T5 wasn't available when I wrote the manual. I doubt F will be including T5 on the KX ISO r even in the repos for the same reason he took REAPER and wine out but these days I recommend Tracktion instead off REAPER to Linux users who aren't happy with the open source DAWs. I think its prob worth keeping at least the bits that relate to Cadence but the REAPER config might make more sense being moved onto the wiki?

If good compat wth Windows VSTs is a priority, you'll have more luck with REAPER currently but Tracktion's plugin compat has been improving with every release and it gets updated frequently. We may never see a fully native/working REAPER for Linux and even if we do it'll likely be non-free like the Windows and Mac versions.
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Re: KX mini manual

Postby danboid » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:37 pm

Added gxtuner to the apps list, which should've been there all along. I'm pretty sure I've tried all the tuners for Linux but gxtuner is the only one I've ever had work properly.
Are you new to Linux Audio? This manual explains how to install KXStudio, set up and use JACK, mimimize latency, lists the best Linux AV apps and much more all in a concise and easy to understand format.

http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/kxstudio_manual


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