Re: Do you want more people to use Linux for music?
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:44 pm
Thanks for all the thoughtful and interesting replies.
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Exact same reason that I voted "Yes". I'm selfish: I want to learn from others because I don't know a lot 'bout making music. So even a Windows user can learn me a whole lot 'bout DAW's and producing music on a computer.milo wrote:My main reason for voting Yes in the poll is that I want to have a community full of interesting people that I can learn from, making interesting music, developing and refining tools that I can use. The actual market share of the platform is incidental to me, as long as the Linux world remains vibrant, open, and fun.
I disagree. We need to show them that the command line works easier than searching for that one little piece of functionality in a GUI. I love the CLI and am appreciating a GUI less and less. Couldn't do without it though...merlyn wrote:For the number of Linux users to increase we have to 'turn' Windows users. That means making Linux more attractive and accessible to them. Which means more GUIs, less command line.
Especially in the context of configuring and maintaining a system and how that configuration can be kept inside simple regular text files, just almost ready to be replayed when needed. As opposed to doing a configuration entirely based on pop-up windows and dialog boxes which is most often always a mess to replay, especially with complex configurations.Linuxmusician01 wrote:I disagree. We need to show them that the command line works easier than searching for that one little piece of functionality in a GUI. I love the CLI and am appreciating a GUI less and less. Couldn't do without it though...
Agreed, and well put!raboof wrote:But what we need to scale is is not more consumers, it's more tinkerers.
That indeed would make no sense - though I'm not sure that happens a lot?lykwydchykyn wrote:certainly not by shaming, insulting, or hard-selling people who aren't using Linux
Could you elaborate on what you mean by '2'?lykwydchykyn wrote:I think there are a lot of people who could benefit from free software that aren't, either because (1) they don't know about it, (2) it isn't accessible to them, or (3) it doesn't meet their needs.
I would guess that it refers to a fairly large demographic that will not use an operating system that doesn't come installed on hardware they buy at a store. The process of downloading the installation software, putting it on some kind of loadable media (DVD or USB storage dongle), configuring the computer to boot from that media, and installing and configuring the OS is far beyond many many people who aren't tech heads like us.raboof wrote:Could you elaborate on what you mean by '2'?lykwydchykyn wrote:(2) it isn't accessible to them
I think its a bit of an unfair generalisation (to put it politely) to imply that people who don't use Linux are somehow not capable. It might also be that if you buy a machine with an OS pre-installed, and working, an OS for which the vast majority of available applications are designed, then, even if you are tech minded, you might not see it as desirable to go to the time and trouble of removing it and replacing it with something which could still be a bit hit and miss regarding drivers - and so may end up not being quite as good as what you had (and try taking it back to the store when that happens...)I would guess that it refers to a fairly large demographic that will not use an operating system that doesn't come installed on hardware they buy at a store. The process of downloading the installation software, putting it on some kind of loadable media (DVD or USB storage dongle), configuring the computer to boot from that media, and installing and configuring the OS is far beyond many many people who aren't tech heads like us...
Dell is still selling some Inspiron and XPS laptops with Ubuntu preinstalled in various areas. You can buy one in the UK, for example.Michael Willis wrote:I know Dell made a token effort to ship machines with Ubuntu a while back, but that didn't really go anywhere.
When I was about 11, my brother was attending university and discovered Linux. He bough home some Mandrake Linux live CDs and I seen KDE for the first time. It all looked cool, and it was even free. I wanted it! Then, I started playing around with live media. I would play with Knoppix a lot.Michael Willis wrote: I still haven't figured out how to enable them to believe that they can do it to, which I really feel is the first step to the "freedom" that we always talk about.
It happens among younger people, though more subtly among the older ones. I see it on reddit a lot, where people divide others up into "linux user", "mac users" or "windows users", and take pot-shots at each other. Obviously there's a maturity thing going on there, but online nobody knows your age, so its perceived as a major facet of linux advocacy.raboof wrote:That indeed would make no sense - though I'm not sure that happens a lot?lykwydchykyn wrote:certainly not by shaming, insulting, or hard-selling people who aren't using Linux
Michael WIllis nailed it, there are people who just aren't going to install an OS themselves, nor veer from the status quo when they buy a machine. They may have no difficulty actually using Linux, but they aren't in a position to try it because it isn't a viable option for them.Could you elaborate on what you mean by '2'?lykwydchykyn wrote:I think there are a lot of people who could benefit from free software that aren't, either because (1) they don't know about it, (2) it isn't accessible to them, or (3) it doesn't meet their needs.