Paul Davis at LAC 2017

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Re: Paul Davis at LAC 2017

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mendo wrote:Did you solve the Bitwig MIDI issues with Linux?
https://github.com/falkTX/JackAss
JackAss is a VST plugin that provides JACK-MIDI support for VST hosts.
Simply load the plugin in your favourite host to get a JACK-MIDI port.
Each new plugin instance creates a new MIDI port.
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Re: Paul Davis at LAC 2017

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khz wrote:
mendo wrote:Did you solve the Bitwig MIDI issues with Linux?
https://github.com/falkTX/JackAss
JackAss is a VST plugin that provides JACK-MIDI support for VST hosts.
Simply load the plugin in your favourite host to get a JACK-MIDI port.
Each new plugin instance creates a new MIDI port.
This let's you use your controller easily (pads, faders) with Bitwig?
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Ups, hmm sry 50/50% :wink:
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ssj71 wrote:
glowrak guy wrote:You should run for office.
I have no idea what you mean by that.
You could bring some honest common sense to some juurisdiction.
Too many office holders are, or become forked tongue two-faced scammers,
bent only on taking power and freedom from the individual,
and vesting it on the state.

I see linux as the individual, and the macwindom as the state,
continually eroding computer user freedoms, because they,
as the elites, are smarter and know better,
and hence the lower classes must be controlled for their own good.
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glowrak guy wrote: I see linux as the individual, and the macwindom as the state,
continually eroding computer user freedoms, because they,
as the elites, are smarter and know better,
and hence the lower classes must be controlled for their own good.
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Re: Paul Davis at LAC 2017

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khz wrote:Ups, hmm sry 50/50% :wink:
Could you be a bit more verbose?
Works half way through?
anyway, this is getting off-topic for this thread.
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Re: Paul Davis at LAC 2017

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That was my ~mistake, sry ... np: FZ - 50/50%
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Nice that we still have ~three operating system?
Each OS has "points and limits" && philosophy?
Feel free?
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Evolution && GNU/Linux == ~endless, ~laborious, ...?
Like :bitwig: and other ~commercial software come out! Nice that ~commercial Audio APP no longer "/ignore" GNU/Linux, : THX -
but i do not use it (often). /me :like: GNU/Linux \o/
Individual evolution, freedom, ...?
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Re: Paul Davis at LAC 2017

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I just got around to watching the video, and I wanted to leave my 2c here...

Here's one thing that Mr. Davis' exposition leaves me wondering. He says:

1) Programming a DAW is an awfully hard job
2) Linux Audio is a niche within a niche

Considering those two rough facts, I would have liked to have some insight into mr. Davis' motivation for doing what he does. I think "coding is fun" hardly cuts it in this case, for that matter he could be coding anything different that, all other other things being equal, rendered more profit. I think I remember he has some kind of musical background or past musical interests, but that fact is never mentioned...

Such motivations would be extra interesting considering that, as he tells, he's been in this field for a long time, and with no small feats under his belt; as if Jack and Ardour weren't enough, he's also managed to create a viable business model, something that, from what I know, most open source developers -and not only in the audio community- struggle to do.

I also found a funny parallelism when he speaks of how marketing is not fun but you have to do it; "fractally", it's common to see the same problem mentioned in musician forums; "I'd rather be coding than doing marketing" turns into "I'd rather be playing than doing marketing" :)

Another thing that I found interesting was that he mentioned the lack of differentiation in the community between users and coders, or musicians and geeks... I've observed that gray area often for example in this forum, where you are never sure if you're being too noob for asking something... Obviously some people here is going to be more focused on rythms, and others on algorythms... :P

Just a few observations, without consequence or a moral. Happy music making to all.
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Re: Paul Davis at LAC 2017

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I haven't watched the video (really slow Internet speed where I am at the moment), but I've read just about all of this thread. I just wanted to say that, for some odd reason, I just love linux, the linux community, and all the apps for making music, which I think are awesome and inspiring. Personally, I like the world of linux for its freedom to choose, to participate, to share... I feel like a kid again when I'm at my computer! (And I have a lot of fun making music with it at the same time!)

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Nachei wrote:I would have liked to have some insight into mr. Davis' motivation for doing what he does. I think "coding is fun" hardly cuts it in this case, for that matter he could be coding anything different that, all other other things being equal, rendered more profit. I think I remember he has some kind of musical background or past musical interests, but that fact is never mentioned...
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I can't speak exactly for him, but he's mentioned several times that his motivation was that he was using pro-tools and asked them for the source code. They said no, so he decided to make an open source DAW. He does have a music background though I'm not exactly sure what nature. And you might be surprised how motivating coding because its fun to work on something you want is. Probably a bit like why people design and make their own speakers even though you can buy them cheaper, or grow their own tomatoes.
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briandc wrote:I haven't watched the video (really slow Internet speed where I am at the moment), but I've read just about all of this thread. I just wanted to say that, for some odd reason, I just love linux, the linux community, and all the apps for making music, which I think are awesome and inspiring. Personally, I like the world of linux for its freedom to choose, to participate, to share... I feel like a kid again when I'm at my computer! (And I have a lot of fun making music with it at the same time!)
I agree 100%, though I've often participated in conversations about how to improve linux audio or get more users or whatever. I think its wise for us all to be realistic about what linux audio really is, what its quirks are, where the weaknesses are. Then we can be honest about it, and hopefully find ways to improve it. Or maybe not waste our time trying to make it something its not :)
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