Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

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Re: Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

Post by briandc »

Cool!! :)

Only I couldn't get it to work. :oops:
Ok, I downloaded it, set in the home/.lv2 directory (had to make it). Extracted it. Opened Carla. Did a refresh of paths, which includes home/.lv2 directory. Then I opened TAL (in Carla). But I can't find how to access the presets.

Feeling like an idiot...

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Re: Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

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falkTX wrote:
briandc wrote:Cool!! :)

Only I couldn't get it to work. :oops:
Ok, I downloaded it, set in the home/.lv2 directory (had to make it). Extracted it. Opened Carla. Did a refresh of paths, which includes home/.lv2 directory. Then I opened TAL (in Carla). But I can't find how to access the presets.

Feeling like an idiot...
Don't, Carla simply doesn't support LV2-presets yet.

re-read this part:
Ardour3 (latest beta), Jalv and Qtractor (0.5.5) can load them (although not sorted, report a bug to them)
Carla is not mentioned on purpose. only those 3 apps can load the presets.
Got it. :wink:
The reason I guess I skipped that part, is because I don't like DAWs very much. I know some (most?) people like DAWs, and I know they have a lot of features, but it always takes so much time just to get a simple idea recorded. Everytime I open Ardour I have to open a project. Uff! I like to just record an idea, add more tracks one-by-one, and save it all as an audio file. I'll try Ardour again, just to hear the sounds. But I always feel like I have to jump through hurdles just to get recording..

Then again, it's probably just me not knowing all the features of DAWs; maybe there's a way to skip most of the steps.

I'm really curious to hear this presets..

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Re: Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

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@briandc, you might want to try if non-daw suits your need. If you want you can start jalv in nsm (via nsm-proxy, likely jalv will get nsm support in future).
http://non.tuxfamily.org/
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studio32 wrote:@briandc, you might want to try if non-daw suits your need. If you want you can start jalv in nsm (via nsm-proxy, likely jalv will get nsm support in future).
http://non.tuxfamily.org/
Yes, I tried non-daw, and it seems simpler, but I still wasn't able to get past opening TAL. Opening the plug-in: ok. Opening new patches for the plug-in: not ok.

It's probably my own limitations. Still, I think DAWs will always remain a hurdle. Even if I get into using one at some point in the future, but it reminds me of my Motif 8: lots of selecting, dialing and clicking before you can get anything recorded.

Last night I was having fun with Qsynth. With audacity, I am able to get jamming in a matter of seconds (literally). With DAWs (I'm thinking particularly of Ardour), it's not so easy (or fun).
Maybe it's how the DAWs are set-up. Maybe there should be a simpler interface, less options in the menu bars. Just to get you going.

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Re: Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

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falkTX wrote:non-daw supports LV2?
The version I reviewed recently (built from the latest repo sources) included no support for plugins within the DAW itself. As you know, the Non stuff is intended to work as a suite, though of course parts can be split off for separate use, such as NSM.

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Re: Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

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falkTX wrote: ... both v1.0.0 and v1.1.0 versions of Non-Mixer included LADSPA support, so it does support plugins. Or is this no longer the case? (I got a bit confused with Non-DAW/Mixer earlier)
I *think* I'm following the developer's notion of separated apps, so no, the Non-DAW doesn't support plugins but the Non-Mixer does. And I think you're right, it's LADSPA-only for now.

PS: Very excited to check out the new presets too. Thank you so much for your work on the DISTRHO stuff, it's a great contribution to the Linux audio armory. You rock. :)

Best,

dp
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Non-mixer only supports good old LADSPA.
But I read those presets works in jalv, so you can start jalv in the nsm-proxy client in NSM.
Jalv should have nsm support in future.
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Re: Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

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It would be nice if Carla would have nsm support too indeed

I've dowload the distrho source from git, but how do I build the TAL LV2 plugins?

edit: ah got it, but:

$ jalv http://kunz.corrupt.ch/products/tal-noisemaker
Plugin: http://kunz.corrupt.ch/products/tal-noisemaker
No appropriate UI found
JACK Name: TAL NoiseMaker Plugin
MIDI buffers: 256 bytes
Comm buffers: 4096 bytes
Update rate: 60 Hz
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Re: Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

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Ah sorry, my foolishness I guess. jalv.gtk will do

A nice lv2 host with nsm is very welcome. I might give Carla a shot later!
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Re: Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

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Hi

I extract the file and copied the lv2 directory to $HOME/.lv2

I started ardour3beta, opened tal noisemaker, but i don't see the presets?

I also renamed TAL-NoiseMaker-Noise4U.lv2/ to TAL-NoiseMaker.lv2/ in the $HOME/.lv2 directory,
but that doesn't make any difference.

How can i use the presets, without losing the standard presets?
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Re: Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

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Just make sure to put them in a place the host expects it.
/usr/lib/lv2/ is the safest bet (just make sure to not replace the actual plugin bundle files, this is why it has a different name).
You can try something like this too:

export LV2_PATH=$HOME/.lv2:/usr/lib/lv2
ardour3

Also, you can always set the LV2_PATH in your ~/.bashrc file. For example:

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export LV2_PATH=/usr/lib/lv2:/usr/local/lib/lv2:$HOME/.lv2
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Re: Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

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falkTX wrote: Just make sure to put them in a place the host expects it.
/usr/lib/lv2/ is the safest bet (just make sure to not replace the actual plugin bundle files, this is why it has a different name).
You can try something like this too:

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export LV2_PATH=$HOME/.lv2:/usr/lib/lv2
ardour3
works if i export a new path:-)
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Re: Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

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I've been fiddling around with Qtractor, trying to get sound out of plug-ins like TAL Noise-maker. But I get the following errors:

Ok, I changed the paths. But still, qtractor doesn't see my Midi controller (in the connections window, yes, but when I make a track and select a midi device, no)

No sound from TAL or synthv1.

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Re: Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

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brian:

I presume you got your prob sorted right?

F+everyone:

I have been unable to get TAL-NM to find/show these presets under qtr and A3. I can work round that by importing individual sounds into NM but I'd also like to know how to access additional banks of LV2 format presets.

My LV2_PATH seems to be set correctly already:

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dan@dan-SR700:~$ echo $LV2_PATH
/home/dan/.lv2:/usr/lib/lv2:/usr/local/lib/lv2
Here's where I put 'em:

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dan@dan-SR700:~/.lv2/TAL-NoiseMaker-Noise4U.lv2$ ls -l
total 1028
-rw-rw-r-- 1 dan dan   17174 Aug 15  2012 manifest.ttl
-rw-rw-r-- 1 dan dan 1029454 Aug 15  2012 presets.ttl
I see no new presets appearing under qtr (in both the mixer plugin properties and under its MIDI track properties bank selection menus) or A3.

Any ideas?
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Re: Extra presets for TAL-NoiseMaker (LV2)

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danboid wrote:brian:

I presume you got your prob sorted right?

F+everyone:

I have been unable to get TAL-NM to find/show these presets under qtr and A3. I can work round that by importing individual sounds into NM but I'd also like to know how to access additional banks of LV2 format presets.

My LV2_PATH seems to be set correctly already:

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dan@dan-SR700:~$ echo $LV2_PATH
/home/dan/.lv2:/usr/lib/lv2:/usr/local/lib/lv2
Here's where I put 'em:

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dan@dan-SR700:~/.lv2/TAL-NoiseMaker-Noise4U.lv2$ ls -l
total 1028
-rw-rw-r-- 1 dan dan   17174 Aug 15  2012 manifest.ttl
-rw-rw-r-- 1 dan dan 1029454 Aug 15  2012 presets.ttl
I see no new presets appearing under qtr (in both the mixer plugin properties and under its MIDI track properties bank selection menus) or A3.

Any ideas?
Slowly learning the ropes, but I do have 2 versions of synthv1 and TAL Noizemaker working in KXStudio without a problem. Carla handles them well;
I'll check Qtractor again; I don't "do" DAWs very much, too many steps to get recording; but I get them working in Carla just fine. Have you tried that?

You might also try seeing just where the presets are stored (locate [foobar]) and then copy your other patches there.

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