Interest for localized linux audio wikis ?

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Norrin_Radd
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Interest for localized linux audio wikis ?

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(I posted this on LAU Mailing List, and got no answer. I found LinuxMusicians listed in one thread and may be it can be of some interest for the admin of this site, or any readers here)

Hello,

In the name of all the co-admins of www.LinuxMao.org, wich is a Tikiwiki [1] web site, I would like to know if there is an interest for any kind of collaboration in the field of (pirmarily) non-english Linux audio wikis ?

Sometimes ago one of our members, who is multilingual, expressed the wish to translate ours pages in german and spanish, which was favorably received by other members, later a polish user asked to translate part of our content for his own site (BTW, everything is under CC share alike license and there is no need for authorization). Then started the idea to ask here if there are other non-english people who want to involve themselves in the same kind of site but in their own native language. Either imitating us or cloning our "concept".

It's been 3 years that we run "Linuxmao" and we have reached over 1000 members (MAO stands for Musique Assistee par Ordinateur=Computer Aided Music). As non english linux users, we do have the need of reappropriation of all the english resources on the net. This has turned into a website specially aimed at easing newbies's life, as well as sharing various original infos for our advanced users. Our contents are not really encyclopedic but deal with a selection of the best applications for which we try to provide up to date informations and quick starter guides. Our site is not only a wiki, there are some forums, a megaphone (which is a quick chat box that adds some life), a news section that often pick up the news from LAA, an IRC channel on freenode (#linuxmao) and recently we started a collaborative Open CD project (files are shared via bittorrent). Well, this is a community web site. :)

At the moment most of our articles are not yet complete, after all a wiki is an ever evolving thing and will be never really finished. But for sure it's been a very satisfying experience seeing this site evolving constantly with new interesting members arriving with fresh ideas. It would be great to share this to a higher (transnational) level.

So, the intent of this mail is to ask several questions here:

* Are there already some non english sites, specially in Spanish or German, about audio and computer music under Linux ? If not, are there some people here who would want to start one ?

* Would there be some interest to create a webring, some sort of collaboration between all of theses (possible) sites ?

* Then, what could be this collaboration (we have a member that has written scripts to handle properly the translation of the Ardour manual, for instance).

* Would it be pertinent to envision an user centric english site, wich could serve as the reference and the source for all the localized versions ? And, as theses kind of community sites provide forums wouldn' it help to gather a broader audience, given that mailing lists like LAU (yet great) lack a little of usability and accessibility ?

* Is there an interest for Tikiwiki as the CMS technology ? It would be possible to collaborate at this level too, sharing tricks and improvements. We are thinking about sharing a starter kit with already set up various modules so that people who would want to adopt TW will quickly get a working site like us.

Best regards,

N.R.

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I know linuxmao.org kinda well. It's a french-speaking website which provides a great source of info and I used it quite a lot (I am fluent in French, so it helps :) ). I thought about mentioning this web site here, thinking that linuxmusicians could in fact be (by vocation) an english-speaking version of linuxmao.org

(M.A.O. means "Musique Assistée par Ordinateur", i.e. "Computer Assisted Music. I think the best existing term in english would be DAW).
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@Norrin_Radd

I'm sorry it's taken me so long to reply to your post...it slipped under my radar. I'd love to collaborate with your site.

We could definitely share content as well as links to each other, etc, although right now we are not planning on migrating to the Tiki platform.

I'd love to talk with you further on how we can help each other out! Send me a PM and let's talk!
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nathan wrote:@Norrin_Radd

I'm sorry it's taken me so long to reply to your post...it slipped under my radar. I'd love to collaborate with your site.

We could definitely share content as well as links to each other, etc, although right now we are not planning on migrating to the Tiki platform.

I'd love to talk with you further on how we can help each other out! Send me a PM and let's talk!
Maybe you can post a message on their forum too?
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Why can't we just have every language on this forum? :)

-Matt :D

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MattKingUSA wrote:Why can't we just have every language on this forum? :)
Dat is niet echt handig. Zelf zie ik meer in een goede samenwerking tussen de verschillende websites zoals linuxmao.org, linuxaudio.org en linuxmusicians.com ;)
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I couldn't agree more.

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Hello Nathan and all, very pleased by your answer, i am going to relay your message on our site, a contact is made.
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Hello everybody,

I am sorry for not being as responsive as i would want but Linuxmao is right now searching to achieve a better look and organisation.

During this process (this summer) we are a little short of time but we had some interesting discussion about which CMS is the best, etc.

Tikiwiki is not the best but on the other hand it has allowed us to have quickly something well featured with news, wiki and forums.

If there are some people who want to start a Spanish or German Linux audio site I won't say, "hey, use Tikiwiki !". Well, i am rather OK with our choice and now it would be too much assle to change, but i think everybody will have a personal feeling and will have to make his own way.

We have made quite a lot of modifications to make it appears and behaves like we want so its not the perfect tool. Its not certain the perfect tool exists, btw. ;-)

Concerning LinuxMusicians, I cannot comment since i still have to discover it a little more, but i see it as a forums based concept. The tutorials are integrated in the forums.

I like the name, its important to have something that talk to us.

I still would advise you to have a look on the big CMS suites as it allows to have plenty of features quickly to extand your site later.

For instance a wiki remains nice to make tutorials with more interactions with the users. You may want to have a space to share files, and so on..

Another route is to gather several specialised tools in one, but it may ask for more knowledge in administration.

Too bad that the guys of the LAU ML didn't like the forums idea at all, you would have been integrated in the linuxaudio consortium portal thing, as you suggested. :)
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Norrin_Radd wrote:Hello everybody,

I am sorry for not being as responsive as i would want but Linuxmao is right now searching to achieve a better look and organisation.

During this process (this summer) we are a little short of time but we had some interesting discussion about which CMS is the best, etc.

Tikiwiki is not the best but on the other hand it has allowed us to have quickly something well featured with news, wiki and forums.

If there are some people who want to start a Spanish or German Linux audio site I won't say, "hey, use Tikiwiki !". Well, i am rather OK with our choice and now it would be too much assle to change, but i think everybody will have a personal feeling and will have to make his own way.

We have made quite a lot of modifications to make it appears and behaves like we want so its not the perfect tool. Its not certain the perfect tool exists, btw. ;-)

Concerning LinuxMusicians, I cannot comment since i still have to discover it a little more, but i see it as a forums based concept. The tutorials are integrated in the forums.
Have you seen our wiki?

I like the name, its important to have something that talk to us.
Yes nice name, but I also was thinking maybe it could be a broather group we're for like open source musicians or something... (FreeMusicians...)
I still would advise you to have a look on the big CMS suites as it allows to have plenty of features quickly to extand your site later.

For instance a wiki remains nice to make tutorials with more interactions with the users. You may want to have a space to share files, and so on..

Another route is to gather several specialised tools in one, but it may ask for more knowledge in administration.

Too bad that the guys of the LAU ML didn't like the forums idea at all, you would have been integrated in the linuxaudio consortium portal thing, as you suggested. :)
I think Nathan should at a certain moment make contact with Dave Philips of linuxaudio.org to ask if there can be a link to our community on there portal and in which way we could coorporate.. A good relationship and coorporation with linuxaudio.org is important, nice and usefull!

Thanks for the advices and I hope we have to more often here for advice, sharing info and music! :)
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